workingf late this is a big story. david, i know a lot has been coming out since the president and john boehner spoke earlier w headed. what are you hearing? >> both sides, both the speaker's office and the white house were dueling in terms of the numbers and the framework and who was backing off this and pushing for that. although it may sound counterintuitive, the fact that the speaker wants to take this to the congress' level, negotiate with reid and other congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle might help this. they can figure out together where the votes are try and get something through each house and get it to the president. at this poin^ anything the president gets he will sign. i originally thought it was best to have the president in the room, because he could give the democrats cover and direct them as to where he wanted them to go. for whatever reason it doesn't appear to have worked. you might as well do the it now and not have a middleman who going to vote for what. >> that's really interesting.